Unpacking AI Agents

Will Knight: Maybe we besides request a renewed unfastened root activity truthful we're not conscionable utilizing agents that beryllium and chimney information to these elephantine companies. Use unfastened root codification and models, and that benignant of thing.

Michael Calore: That's a very bully idea. We should get Signal connected that. They should commencement doing that. They should make their ain model.

Lauren Goode: I deliberation that sounds great.

Michael Calore: OK, let's return different break, and we'll travel correct back. Will and Lauren, convey you for invigorating conversation. We're going to put AI agents to nan broadside for a infinitesimal and get quality erstwhile again. Let's talk done immoderate recommendations. Will, arsenic our guest, please proposal thing to our listeners.

Will Knight: OK, I talked astir this earlier, but I want to make this my recommendation. I'm going to clasp it up, which is awesome radio. This book, which is The Evolution of Agency by Michael Tomasello. I recovered it conscionable fascinating and really revealing astir what's missing pinch AI erstwhile it comes to agency, and nan value of knowing quality societal interaction, quality culture. When it comes to nan large image of intelligence successful AGI, which everybody talks about, but they don't really talk astir that truthful much.

Michael Calore: Nice. Lauren, what's your recommendation?

Lauren Goode: My proposal is section news, and successful peculiar Mission Local.

Michael Calore: Yay!

Lauren Goode: Mission Local is simply a section nonprofit news statement present successful San Francisco that covers nan Mission neighborhood, but besides San Francisco broadly. They do a awesome job. There's a batch going connected successful US cities correct now, successful peculiar Los Angeles, and besides successful San Francisco. There are ICE raids happening astir nan state and group are taking to nan streets to protestation them. Mission Local has been doing a awesome occupation covering what's been going connected successful San Francisco truthful far. I urge that you support them and support your section news if you can. Mike, what's your recommendation?

Michael Calore: I want to urge an effort successful nan existent rumor of Harper's. It is by nan Norwegian writer Karl Ove Knausgaard who, Lauren, I'm judge you're sick of maine talking about. But it's a awesome essay. It's called “The Reenchanted World.” It is Karl Ove reckoning pinch technology. He tells you astir nan first clip he encountered a computer, which was 40 years ago. Then he conscionable has not paid attraction to computers astatine each and it starts to fuss him. There's a awesome quote adjacent nan top. "To support somewhat informed astir nan governmental business successful nan world is simply a duty, thing 1 has nary correct to move distant from. Shouldn't thing akin use to technology, fixed nan immensity of it influence?" I emotion that quote, because it really gets to nan halfway of what we're talking astir today. In bid to prosecute pinch nan world, you request to understand really these systems work. He goes to a Greek land to sojourn nan writer James Bridle, because their book Ways of Being is simply a really bully preamble to intelligence and artificial intelligence and earthy intelligence. They talk a batch astir artificial intelligence and really its developed and really nan various ways of computing intelligence person shown up successful our lives. It's a really awesome reported portion astir nan existent authorities of exertion successful our lives.

Lauren Goode: Great.

Michael Calore: Yeah.

Lauren Goode: It sounds a batch shorter than his books.

Michael Calore: Yeah. You tin publication it successful nether an hour.

Lauren Goode: Allright, sounds bully to me.

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